Kami Pollvogt is a Transformational Life Coach, an Intentional Creativity Coach, and the founder of Change by Design; a creative personal development company that focuses on teaching, guiding, and accelerating personal change through the practice of living intentionally. She is a Certified Intentional Creativity Coach. Intentional Creativity is an approach to creating with mindfulness that she utilizes with her clients to catalyze consciousness towards self-agency. Kami is here to share about Intentional Creativity, her program Best at Being ME! and how it fits into helping you, our listening audience, to Build Better Relationships at Home and Work.
Kami has an upcoming summer workshop in 2022 called Best at Being ME! This workshop is for every woman who feels like they are in the midst of a life transition. To learn more about her workshop go to www.changebydesign.life
This podcast topic came from a listener’s request about not taking everything so personally.
Why do some people or cultures make it look so easy not to take things personally and others take every little thing to heart?
Is it the environment of how we are raised?
Or do some people have DNA that can let things roll off their back or turn the other cheek with ease?
Are some people more sensitive than others because they are empathic or highly sensitive in nature?
How to overcome hurt by someone’s harsh words: Remind yourself it’s about them not about you at that moment. Maybe you did something they didn’t like. What did their words really say? Was it about the behavior? Or something else?
One tip is to watch your conditioning: What are the annoyed and angry voices in your head regarding the household chores? You will hear your expectations, you may hear your parents, but you will hear the frustration of someone else not doing what you want and thinking about what should be done.
This is your conditioning. So once you hear it. Simply say – ok – that’s my conditioning. It’s not that this person hates me or is insulting me – or wants me dead or ignores me.
This is my expectation about how things should be done. And then if you’re really angry maybe don’t speak with the other person!
But then think about how you could say to them what you want. But don’t expect them to do it the way you want because that may not be their conditioning!
Some strategies to help deal with and not take things personally:
Listen to happy, soothing, calming, or spiritual music when feelings start to surface within you.
Find something fun to do to help redirect thoughts.
Practice meditation and pray for “Letting Go” of things people have said.
Watch your reactions and triggers when around certain people. Become aware of those thoughts and assumptions. Reflect on why these reactions are happening and how you can release or address them?
With friendships, coworkers, partners and family how has taking things personally affected these relationships? What can I do to change it for the better
Are some people more sensitive than others because they are empathic or highly-sensitive in nature?
Do you feel you’re Feeling too much?
Feeling everything about you – you are the center of attention – are you the most important thing in a relationship?
What is a relationship?
A relationship is not just about you.
A relationship is like a dance – two people having a tango – push-pull. Not about just you and your feelings. ~ Angela Ambrosia
For meditations to help with hurt in relationships here is the video series “Choose the Relationship” by Angela Ambrosia. The meditations are at the end of the videos.
It’s been ten years since Angela wrote the Body of Love in 2012. Happy 10th Anniversary Congratulations, Angela!
Today, Angela will celebrate what she has learned and so much more about the Body ten years later, and Angela is excited to share pieces of her teachings from the Body of Love and how they can help you change how you relate to the Body. Angela also discusses how different dance experiences helped shape her mindset to love her body.
“The time you spend connecting to yourself and your body is how you develop and make a relationship with the reservoir of love inside of you that allows you to share that love with others.” ~ Angela Ambrosia
“The Body of Love is the part of you so in love with life that it is beyond the suffering you experience in love and loving others, or yourself or in being here in the world. The more you love yourself, the more you are able to be who you truly are.” ~ Angela Ambrosia
“The concept of “service” is stepping into loving and knowing who you are so that you no longer live a lie, and in doing so, you allow others to live their truth and step into their own loving being.” ~ Angela Ambrosia
“But as you grow through life with higher principles of love, you develop ways to accept people, tolerate differences and enjoy their differences without expecting others to live according to your version of love and find creative ways for us to grow and live together.”
“The greatest service you can do for others is to allow them the gift of loving themselves. When people feel that you encourage this self-love in them as you allow it for yourself, they will flock to you and want to be your best friend.” ~Angela Ambrosia
Angela and Patti discuss forgiving family members and hurtful words in this podcast episode.
Have you ever said something so hurtful and regretted it?
The same is true for family members who have said angry, hurtful words to you. Hurting people lash out at others. Words hurt profoundly, and a lot of times, and not forgotten. Speaking in anger can be dangerous for all relationships, even if it is accurate and how you are feeling at that moment in time. The damage has been created and really can’t take back.
Why do we say hurtful words? First, it’s helpful to understand why people become habituated to saying unkind things.
Understanding why people say hurtful things will help you see what the person is experiencing underneath the words.
Patti often says in our podcasts, “hurt people – hurt other people.”
Angela – I see that hurt people have no way to heal their hurt or resolve it – so they project it out – like spitting out the poison inside them – or when you spit out something that you don’t like in your mouth.
The thing is – it seems pretty stupid to spit out your hurt on someone else – if you want to stay friends with them.
So why would we do that?
Well, monkey sees – monkey do.
How do you forgive?
Forgiveness is the hardest thing for most people. Unforgiveness is a poison on your soul and spirit. Unfortunately, people with unforgiveness spill it out on others, and the cycle continues down the line.
Questions to journal or self reflect on:
Are apologies needed to be said before healing can happen? YES or NO
What if apologies never occur?
What if the family member doesn’t want to make amends?
How will you let go and forgive without an apology?
When unforgiveness takes over your thoughts and heart, recite the Hawaiian Forgiveness Prayer Ho’oponopono” at least three or more times. First, say the person’s name and then the prayer. Or you may not get a chance to apologize or get an apology; this prayer will assist in healing and forgive with a genuine desire to heal the relationship.
Please forgive me
I love you
We would love to hear about your family dynamics and how you conquered and let go of the hurt from angry words said, whether you were telling them or directed at you.
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In this episode, Angela and Patti have a special guest Kami Pollvogt, a Transformational Life Coach and Intentional Creativity Coach, and founder of Change by Design; a creative personal development company that focuses on teaching, guiding, and accelerating personal change through the practice of living intentionally.
She is a Certified Independent COLOR CODE Trainer which is based upon the personality science research done by Dr. Taylor Hartman who published his work The Color Code in 1987 (almost 35 years ago) subsequent editions are titled The People Code.
Kami shares all about Color Code and how it fits into helping our audience Build Better Relationships at Home and Work.
To learn more about Kami Pollvogt products, services, and workshopsclick the links below:
In this episode, we look at the changing expectations in the marketplace where people are moving to offer their services for sale versus working in a job with a fixed salary and how this forces you to claim your value versus having employers or your own perceptions determine what you are worth.
Self-Reflection Questions for Determining a Raise:
Do I exceed expectations of my job duties, job description, and why?
Am I the go-to person who gets things done?
Do I take on additional tasks, projects, and responsibilities outside of my job description?
Do others come to me for my advice, knowledge, and leadership?
Am I increasing my learning and knowledge within my industry?
Do people at work describe me as vital within the company?
How Do You Claim Your Value as an Entrepreneur?
Is the world interested in what you share?
Does the world understand what you share?
Do you have something of value to others?
And if you do – do you know how to communicate that effectively to others?
Can people afford what you have to share?
Will people want to pay for what you have to offer?
There are so many other people offering what you have; why would they want what you’ve got to share?
Self-Doubt to Self-Assured Common stuff that goes through people minds:
How much do I share?
Did I share too much?
Do people want to hear about it?
Will it make a difference?
Am I too pushy?
What if no one buys my products or services?
What if people are making fun of me or judging me?
Here are some questions and Journal exercises about thinking about your value and how you condition your value.
If you want to claim your value, you need to see the conditions you put on it, so that you will understand why you are using your time and energy the way you are and so that IF you want to, can change your perception about your value you can:
1. See how to change your mindset or perception about your value
2. Change the way you describe your value to the world, so they understand your value or
3. See how to communicate your value to the world so that they understand it clearly.
It is ONLY the belief that what you offer is worth a certain price.
How do you claim your value in what you offer to the world, whether at work or in personal relationships?
In a summary of this podcast episode of Building Better Relationships at Home and Work with Angela and Patti. We will discuss how to find purpose through loneliness.
With the ongoing pandemic, many people are feeling isolated and lonely. We want to explore this topic and share some tips and strategies to ease the emotions, find your purpose, and put it into action.
What does having a purpose mean?
Do you believe that we are here to serve our purpose?
Is there something that you feel deeply about, and you know you are supposed to pursue it?
What if we don’t find our purpose?
Angela and Patti have been pursuing these questions for years. Why did we feel so strongly about making this podcast? We want to help people have good relationships with oneself and others while living their best life with a purpose and intent.
Angela’s talks about the shadow side.
What does it need?
What does this thought or feeling have to say about my purpose?
In today’s podcast, we will share some techniques to refocus your energy, which can also help you reset yourself for the year.
What is Physical Self-Healing?
Physical self-healing is learning and creating habits that support you, your body, and your spirit. And recognize and release patterns that are out-dated and need to go, such as workaholic tendencies, wasting your energy, thinking bad about yourself and others, and putting your body’s health last.
Angela’s Tips on Resetting your Physical and Emotional Energy:
Setting an intention for the year to determine your focus for your life. How does the intent take you further than last year? Did you achieve your goals for last year? Why not What would you love to try this year? Is it more or less of what you are doing?
Physical Reset Tips:
1. Shower. And imagine the water washing over you is fresh life energy and white light. Feel that light is releasing the past.
2. Go to the ocean and release old energy.
3. Visualize yourself in a bubble of light to accept who you are just the way you are without attempting to change or be different. Light is used in healing to wash in different vibrations because we are vibrating; from our blood flow to our heartbeat, we are always vibrating. You can even now imagine yourself in a bubble of any color light and notice how it makes you feel.
4. Angela does meditation to walk you through this technique quickly on the podcast. BREATHE. FEEL HEART AND FEEL BREATH and LET GO of OLD and FOCUS ON NEW BREATH. Take a few breaths to refocus your energy.
Ask the following and see what comes to you.
WHAT IS IT YOU WANT FOR YOU?
WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR YOUR WORLD?
How to write an affirmation:
*Start with the words I am?
*Use the word or statement in the present tense.
*State it in the positive. Affirm what you want.
*Keep it brief, specific, clear, and straightforward.
*Have a word with (ing)
*Include at least one dynamic emotion or feeling word.
*Make the affirmation, so it resonates with you!
Affirmation: I am resetting my focus on my dreams!
Patti gave this example: Someone that works all the time and has little attention or focus on their body or health.
*What are the benefits of leaving work on time?
*What actions will you put in place to leave work on time?
*How will you use this extra time to focus on a healthy lifestyle?
Patti’s 21 Days to Optimal Work/Life Balance Program with its reflection questions helps open your mind to a new way of looking at what you want in life. It resets your mindset as well as physical reset with some of the topics. There are affirmations in the program, and Patti made companion affirmation cards for support and inspiration to keep you on track.
In this podcast episode, Angela and Patti get real and have a conversation about communicating in conflict.
When we came up with this topic, we explored being okay to say no and have a fall-out with someone. People pleasers struggle with saying no because they are scared, leading to the person not liking them or getting upset with them.
Nowadays, people are quick to avoid or ghost others instead of talking to each other. They wash their hands of people and walk away. It is easier to bail than to communicate. We hope this not the case; we know it is better to discuss things, whether pleasant or not, for relationships to last. Patti wrote a blog called “Damaged Relationships – Are They Salvageable?” It is about fall-out relationships and how unforgiveness causes physical and emotional harm.
Working relationships do have fall-outs that are not pretty. Avoidance makes more stress within the Workplace because the little things start adding up to big things when not addressed. That’s when all hell breaks loose in the Workplace, and people explode, get burnt out, start overthinking, become anxious, have low morale and no motivation, or even worse, quit and walk out without any notice. Patti did a blog called – How to Respond to Unprofessional People! Journal about what happened. Reflect on how they may respond to you. Create a plan of action on how to communicate calmly and to respond sensibly.
In the blog post series called Bad Leadership Styles. The series is how to identify different styles of Leadership with suggestions on guidance to address these negative behaviors. I will provide the link in the show notes.
Tips on How to Keep the Relationship While Dealing With Conflict:
Work on your feelings first:
❤️ Are you angry and denying it?
❤️ What are you feeling?
❤️ If it’s about being right.
❤️ Why do you need to be, right?
❤️ Being right is always based on a belief that you should be better than someone.
❤️ Why do you have to be better than someone?
If you’re listening to this in the holidays and you want to focus on having better relationships, then take this time to envision or pray or imagine the type of affection or connection you would love in your relationships.
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My journal is what I want it to be, what I need it to be, each time I open it and put my pen to the page. This is what a journal is meant to be. ~ Plynn Gutman, Your Journal Companion 365 Writing Prompts to Heighten Awareness of Self and Others
(Patti) Plynn makes the journaling process easy with an entire year’s worth of thought-provoking writing prompts. She explains the emotional and physiological benefits of personal writing gives instruction on several powerful writing techniques and offers tips on “how, where, and when” to start the process.
(Patti) In that presentation, Plynn made journaling fun, easy, and relaxing. We did a few different journaling techniques with her, and I have been hooked on journaling ever since.
(Angela) I started journaling when I was 12 yrs old. At an age where I had very raw feelings, I discovered that I couldn’t put them anywhere; I could put them in my journal. This was in the 80s. For some reason, at school, my teacher had introduced that concept of a journal instead of a diary. And she taught us that a journal was where you could explore writing, but not writing for others, writing for yourself. And being a socially awkward kid who felt I didn’t belong, I found it the perfect place to write my feelings. I also felt my English teacher – Mrs. Casey, was permitting me to dispose of feelings that I didn’t want to share publicly.
(Angela) Later on, Mrs. Casey read our journals, which were part of our English work, and I wasn’t afraid of her reading my journal. And her encouragement to keep writing was key to me continuing the process of having a private space to dive into myself, my feelings, my creative thoughts, ideas, and the not so great stuff too, or my shadow. I always remember that time at school as a clear moment my teacher was giving me a way out of feeling uncomfortable in myself, and gently encouraged me to write out my feelings so that they had a safe space to be heard.
(Angela) After Mrs. Casey read my first journal, I kept my journals private, and they have been a constant resource for me to write my thoughts, ideas, and later in life, my realizations from my soul and my meditation practice.
(Angela) I often wonder what would have happened if I didn’t have that first year of writing encouraged by a teacher. Would I have written anyway? I don’t know.
(Angela) I do know that the habit of using a journal started very young for me and has saved my relationships by giving me a space to write my feelings, see my feelings and not project my feelings on others because my priority of journaling gave me the habit of writing my feelings in an attempt to externalize them, to try to understand them and this developed to a deeper level the most important relationship, the relationship with myself by writing my feelings and reading them, and developing an ongoing relationship with myself so that I could understand my feelings.
(Angela) To this day – I can go back and read some of the old journals, and still discover things about myself. Some things have stayed constant over time, and some things have changed so significantly, and that has helped me learn the power of recording and watching my journey in life through journaling.
(Patti) When I was probably about 9 to 10 years old, my Mom or Grandmother gave me a diary that had a lock and key. I wonder what happened to it. It would have been fun to read what I wrote in it today.
(Angela) Patti – I have a question: When you discovered the power of journaling with Plynn – How did you start using it in your life and relationships?
(Patti) Great question Angela, journaling was new to me. It opened up so many things for me. Instead of verbally sharing my feelings and emotions on someone else I started using journaling. This helped me not project my anger or judgment on others. Plynn’s book and app have daily journaling prompts, which helped me get into the habit of journaling. She made it easy to want to journal. Then I moved on to journaling on my own. When upset or needed to brain dump or brainstorm for solutions to problems, I would journal whether in a relationship or feelings that needed to be released. These are private thoughts that I was feeling at that moment. Sometimes I would burn or shred what I wrote. I also keep an idea journal, career journal, and a scattered journal. A scatter journal is a journal that I put random thoughts in. My made-up word for the scattered journal. I watched a documentary that Agatha Christie would write down ideas all over the place in journals.
(Patti) What are some of the biggest challenges in starting to journal?
Or not knowing how?
(Patti) Choose a time to journal daily. It can be when you get up in the morning, on your lunchtime, or before going to sleep. You may want to use journaling prompts or self-reflect about your day. Journaling can open up your mind to change and inspire you to pursue your dreams, aspirations, and goals. It allows you to alter your thoughts, which block you. Find someplace peaceful, quiet that you can think and write.
(Patti) When the weather’s nice, I like to journal outside on my patio. Some of my best journaling experiences are when on vacation or camping. Being outdoors is very refreshing. Schedule journaling time and be consistent. You can journal anywhere.
Some of my best journaling experiences are when on vacation or camping. Being outdoors is very refreshing. Schedule journaling time and be consistent. You can journal anywhere. ~ Patti Oskvarek, Leadership and Work-Life Balance Coach
(Patti) What do you need for journaling?
Pen and Paper or
A notebook or journal or
There are journal apps or
Journaling Prompts on Pinterest, Writing Coaches Websites, etc.
(Angela) Tip: You can choose a time of day that suits your journal’s focus and the best way to maximize your consciousness.
(Angela) The morning is good for setting your intent and energy for the day.
(Angela) The night before sleep is good for reviewing problems, patterns, and whether you achieved your goal for the day, or if you set an intention for your relationships to be calm in the morning, in the evening, you can review – How did this go?
(Angela) I sometimes set myself a journal exercise, for example at noon to review my feelings, so I set the alarm and check in with my feelings at noon and write.
(Angela) What time of day do you naturally feel like looking inward? If you don’t have a habit of looking inward, you can start by setting a time to focus on one question. Write on it – and then after one week of journaling, ask yourself, was this the best time for me to journal? If not, ask yourself what a better time to journal is. Sometimes we create obstacles to journaling because you’re trying to write at the wrong time of day that is the best time of day to connect with yourself and your intuition. I have clients who have resistance to journaling, and sometimes it’s because they are writing at the wrong time of the day or week.
(Angela) If you are not really convinced that journaling can change you in a way that brings outer world success, you can measure this success. When you journal over time, you can watch the change in your connection to your inner world, which changes the way you act or behave in your relationships.
(Angela) Journaling over a period of time with gradual and consistent practice brings deep change. It’s like water dripping on a rock over time. You get this beautiful shape formed by the water constantly moving through the rock.
(Angela) Patti has some specific questions to answer in your journal about relationships which could start to change the way you understand yourself and your relationships. And these questions you can come back to over time to build an ongoing relationship with yourself. This is how coaches use questions to write answers to develop self-knowledge and deepen your relationship with yourself.
(Patti) Here is some Journaling prompts to deepen and save your relationships: Most of these prompts can be used with any relationship type—friendship, romantic, family, or work.
Describe what you want in the relationship?
Describe what you don’t want in the relationship?
What is the relationship like at the moment?
What is working well in the relationship?
What one thing can you do to make the relationship better and more of what you want it to be?
What does love mean to you?
What does love mean to your partner?
What is meaningful about the relationship?
What are some of your expectations for the relationship?
What is meaningful about your relationship?
(Angela) Number 6 – What does love mean to you that could be a whole book for one person!
(Angela) Questions from a coach can make journaling a lot more structured for anyone unsure where to start when it comes to your relationships. We’ll have those questions in the show notes.
(Angela) And the beauty of a question like number 6 – What does love mean to you – you can keep writing on this topic for many years.
(Angela) I want to invite listeners if there is anything that persistently bugs you – like – why do people act the way they do, why are people unkind – these are great topics to start writing on. I used to write on desire because I was obsessed with understanding why do we want things? Why do we want a person, why do we want an experience in life – and this was a large part of what I wrote on – to understand what I was curious about in the human condition.
(Angela) Curiosity is something that journaling can help you discover more and feed into your relationships.
(Angela) If you have a love relationship that has gotten stale, often there is a deeper need to understand something.
(Angela) It’s very easy to complain about your partner, being ‘not this or not that.’
(Angela) But how often do you get curious about how your partner thinks, why they do the things they do – and also what inspires them.
(Angela) When you journal on questions like:
(Angela) 10 What is meaningful about your relationship?
(Angela) You can start to share deeper things with your partner.
(Angela) That question Patti reminds me about another topic we want to have as a podcast – Can you say I love you? I find people are so unaware of what is the meaning of a relationship – and don’t know how to say “I love you” because they never had the time to contemplate what is the significance of a person to them – or Why a relationship has meaning and value for them. This is why coaching is so valuable – We give clients these value-based questions to help them find meaningful information.
(Angela) And you can always use these questions to go deeper with yourself in the writing process. When you find deeper meaning in your relationship, you can value it and look at it differently instead of getting stuck on what the blocks in the relationship will be. If you don’t know what is meaningful in a relationship, you can’t save the relationship because you don’t know why you want the relationship.
If you don’t know what is meaningful in a relationship, you can’t save the relationship because you don’t know why you want the relationship. ~ Angela Ambrosia, Love and Relationship Coach
(Patti) Journal even when you are feeling disengaged, upset, disappointed, or confused about your relationship, this can be one of the best times to reflect on the relationship situation and get out every ugly thing that has been left unsaid.
(Patti) Journal about happy times in your relationships and refer back to those moments to remind you why you love that person. Create happy moments or gratitude journals.
(Patti) Why is this good for relationships?
(Patti) When you journal about your feelings, you are not taking those emotions out on others. It lets you brain dump and removes all toxic thoughts. Once those emotions and thoughts have been exhaled you can move into rational solutions.
(Angela) Some questions on feelings when you get to a block in a relationship, or your feelings are hurt or coming up.
What am I feeling?
Why am I feeling this?
Is this my feeling – or am I picking up someone else’s feelings?
(Angela) Sometimes, especially if you are an emotional or sensitive person, you get lost in a feeling thinking it is yours, but in relationships, we also are feeling and impacted by the feelings of those we are in a relationship with especially close loved ones, children, parents, lovers, and friends. And even co-workers or neighbors have a deep impact on us especially if we are around them regularly.
(Angela) Patti, Have did you use journaling to save relationships in the work environment?
(Patti) Yes, I had a work journal. I used it to problem solve, work out issues, and emotions. I also gave my staff at the time a work journal. Some used the journal, and some did not. It was their personal choice whether to use it or not. Dumping your thoughts into the work journal helped in so many ways, instead of projecting emotions on others. It gave time to self-reflect instead of a knee-jerk reaction to a solution or problem. I wish I used it more than I did. It could have changed outcomes for the better. Daily work interactions are very much learning experiences when working with others. There are different points of view and work backgrounds. Reflecting on the situation through journaling gives you a new perspective of maybe I could do it differently with a better result.
(Angela) Patti, How did you use journaling to problem solve and brainstorm at work?
(Patti) When something comes up that I need to figure out, pulling out the journal helps make lists of how to solve the problem or situation by brainstorming solutions or ideas to develop different ways to tackle issues or communicate with others. Then brainstorm with others the ideas you’ve come up with. So when I brainstorm, I freestyle the process with no editing. When you edit while you write, your critic’s brain comes out, and you use the flow of ideas. No idea is a bad idea when in the brainstorming process. Working with others in a group journaling on the whiteboard ideas is an excellent way to come with something you wouldn’t think of. Working as a team and journaling is a way to throw out ideas towards solutions. Ask a question to the team and have them journal for solutions. I’ve seen great ideas come up when doing this. Individuals have private time to think and then feel comfortable sharing ideas when they feel safe. People need to feel that they won’t be criticized or reprimanded for their ideas for people to share.
(Angela) Tip: I have recently reviewed some journals where I did a dump of some quite dark emotions. On the one hand, it was good to see that I no longer feel that way. However, I also burned some of the old journals that I felt were no longer me, and the words or feelings in the journal were not something I want to keep. I tore out a few pages, and a few whole journals went into the fire. Sometimes, the writing isn’t necessary to stay forever; sometimes, the writing is to be kept to remind you in your future of where you came from, and how different or connected that is to where you are now.
(Angela) So if you have something that is particularly dark – you can always burn it, which releases the energy.
(Angela) And if you burn something and later think – oh, I wish I hadn’t destroyed it – you can always make a quiet time, sit and think. What was the relevance of what I wrote to what I am moving through now in my life?
(Angela) The significance of what you wrote will still be inside you somewhere, even if your words are not the same. The meaning and feeling will be accessible, and you can connect to it, and journal on the significance of that past piece of journaling.
(Patti) I find that journaling is good for you in so many ways. If there is something, you never want to be seen by others, destroy it by burning or shredding it. Those are your personal thoughts in time, and it is an excellent way to release them. Keep your journals in a secure private place. There are journal apps, and you can make a secure password-protected document on your computer for journaling as well.
(Angela) Try out journaling and let us know if it has made a positive difference in your relationships with others.
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